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jerseyguy504
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PLEASE HELP

Post by jerseyguy504 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:17 pm

NEED HELP,

I applied to be a police officer through the civil service test, I passed and got certified by my department. My department hired me and sent me to academy. I passed the academy and have been working as a police officer for a year now.

Just recently I found out I was not getting pension dues taken out so I inquired about it. The PFRS enrollment center stated I was over the age at the end of the closing date which at time of closing date my age was 35 years old 3 months and 4 days old. Now that I went through my department to rectify this issue they put me out on excused leave until further notice. I notified my PBA and I am not happy with what is going on. Should I get a personal lawyer at this time or look into my FOP.

ANYONE else ever hear or have an issue with age requirement. What was the status of it?

PLEASE HELP

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Re: PLEASE HELP

Post by HardTruth » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:23 am

At the minimum consult with an attorney

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Re: PLEASE HELP

Post by cop91 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:38 am

So you took the test when you were 35 years old. How old were you when you were employed by them? It sounds like you're currently 36 since you've been working for a year now. Most of the time it takes about 6 months for employers to enroll you into the PFRS system, however it should be back dated to your hire date. Do you have documentation that shows you were hired on a specific date?

I find it a little weird you didn't notice $180 - $360 a pay coming out of your paycheck each time. I would get documentation from your employer and hopefully you retained all of your pay stubs. Then I would go to the pension office in person, and speak to someone. Good luck.

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Post by jerseyguy504 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:23 am

Pensions is stating I’m 3 months and 4 days over the age at the closing date of the examination which they can’t enroll me in the PFRS....so with that said I can’t buy back my service time from my previous job I had of 4 yrs to bring my age down even further

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Re: PLEASE HELP

Post by aceshigh1300 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:40 pm

Individuals seeking employment with a municipality
in an eligible PFRS title who are over age 35 on the
closing date of the examination with a Civil Service
employer, or over age 35 on the date of hire with a
Non-Civil Service employer, even after reductions in
age have been taken into account, cannot establish
membership in any State-administered retirement
system. Since enrollment in the PFRS is a condition
of employment (N.J.S.A. 43:16A-3(1)), these individuals cannot be hired.

Definitely consult with an attorney. Only things I know of as far as being able to lower your age would be military membership on active duty during periods outlined in Employer's Pensions and Benefits Administration Manual or PFRS Member Guideline. The other being employed as a law enforcement officer somewhere else, some federal positions would qualify. Prior PERS time won't lower you age, just allow you to buy the time back. Though it sounds like even those might not help with a municipal position.

Options wise, after consulting an attorney, would be to explore the positions that allow law enforcement officers in PERS. Sheriff's Offices, County Prosecutor's Offices, State Colleges and a few state agencies.

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